Changes: Just Cause Wiki:Site maintenance log

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This is the Just Cause Wiki site maintenance log.

Purpose

The purpose is to list all important updates in a single place, so we wouldn't have to list them on each-others user talk pages and such. Site glitches can also be mentioned here, but the correct place to report them is here, or here.

Plese note that this is not a forum. All discussions about possible site updates an improvements should remain on talk pages. All entries here should be dated in UTC time (GMT 0:00).

List of users with special rights

The log

All log entries must be signed.

We have a policy to archive long articles, but so far this article is an exception to this.

2012.05.22

I created a new template today. Template:Infobox Character.

GMRE

2012.05.23

There was an odd glitch earier today, about 6 hours ago, which prevented the wiki from being edited with an Internet Explorer 8. I sent an error message to the right place and the wiki seems to be fine again.

Before yesterday I also noticed that the autocomplete function, when typing links in the "source" mode, did not work. That seems to be working now.

GMRE 18:38, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

2012.05.24

There were still a few glitches regarding Internet Explorer 8 earlier today, but again they seem to be fixed now.
This log was created after Lucan07 agreed to the idea. The first log entries were copied from User blog:GMRE/Captain's log.

GMRE 13:50, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

2012.05.24

Norrlanning96 added "Missions that take place here" to the settlement infobox. Now location pages nolonger need a "Missions" section, unless there's something special and notable about how the mission changes the settlement.

GMRE 21:02, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

2012.06.01

Mission categories

Right now the Just Cause 2 storyline missions are listed in the article "List of Agency missions" and in the category called "Agency Missions". The Just Cause (1) storyline missions are all listed in the article "Types of missions in Just Cause" and in the category "Just Cause Missions". The disambiguation "Storyline mission", the disambiguation "Missions" and the "Main navigation board" on the main page should minimize confusion, but I don't think that's enough when Just Cause 3 comes out. The current situation is pretty confusing as it is.

I'll create new categories for the storyline missions.

The Just Cause (1) missions will remain in the same "Just Cause Missions" main category, because Just Cause (1) doesn't have any mission sub-categories.
The Just Cause 2 category "Agency Missions" will be replaced by the category "Just Cause 2 Agency missions".
When Just Cause 3 comes out then either I, or someone else, will make a main category "Just Cause 3 Missions" and a sub-category "Just Cause 3 Agency missions".

All pages that are left over will be redirected into the disambiguation "Missions".

GMRE 16:36, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Tables (This section is out of date. See below.)

The wiki has changed its default tables.

The old (good) table in code:

{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" style="width: 650px"
|'''Example 1.'''
|Example 2.
|-
|Example 3.
|
|}

That code as a table:

Example 1.	Example 2.
Example 3.

Example 1 of the new table code:

{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="article-table" style="width: 650px"
|'''Example 1.'''
|Example 2.
|-
|Example 3.
|
|}

That code as a table:

Example 1.	Example 2.
Example 3.

Example 2 of the newer table code:

{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="article-table" style="width: 650px"
! scope="col"|'''Example 1.'''
! scope="col"|Example 2.
|-
|Example 3.
|
|}

That code as a table:

Example 1.	Example 2.
Example 3.

Only the older and better ones are in use in this wiki. The new ones are bad because they leave large amounts of empty space between each row of text.

Basically, to get the good tables, we have to:

In "Table properties" - Set the "Border size" as "1".
In "Source" mode - Delete the class="article-table" part of the table code.

I know there's a way to make the back-ground of the old table white (non-transparent), but I'm not sure how. I'll update this article once I'll find it.

GMRE 18:03, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

2012.06.11

There's a very large amount of info about the Sabotage Destructible Objects in the giant user blog User:Enodoc/Intel on Chaos. It should eventually be sorted into the articles. Unfortunately there's a glitch, which can sometimes make that page difficult to read. GMRE 10:17, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Much of it is merged into the articles now. (Norrlanning96 (talk) 23:29, July 31, 2012 (UTC))

2012.06.16

Created a table for the Just Cause 2 territory templates. The advantage is that previously all locations were in a single long list, but now they're sorted by type. GMRE 13:36, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

2012.07.06 (newer tables here, outdated)

The wiki owners are changing the site programming, so we're going to have to change the coding for ALL tables on the site.

This is an example of an exsting table, as it appears in source mode:

{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" style="width: 650px"
|'''Example 1.'''
|Example 2.
|-
|Example 3.
|
|}

And this is what it will have to be changed to:

{| border="1" style="float:left; width:650px"
|'''Example 1.'''
|Example 2.
|-
|Example 3.
|
|}
<br clear=all/>

If the existing table does not specify the width, then that part should be skipped. Also, note the "clear=all" part at the end.

GMRE (talk) 22:57, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

2012.07.13

I've updated the portal pages, adding the main page banner to both and some newly photoshopped logos.

BureaucratKronos 02:09, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

2012.08.02

A new infobox was created yesterday. It's named Infobox Vehicle and is supposed to be used on all vehicle pages. (Norrlanning96 (talk) 13:16, August 2, 2012 (UTC))

2012.08.18

Added new section in Template:Infobox Region. See the template page for more info. (OrdermanSaddex 23:57, August 17, 2012 (UTC))

2012.10.04

Added some images and titles for the achievements and plan to finish it up some time soon. Anyone with admin level rights can add titles to the achievements so feel free to give them names as any is better than "test." BureaucratKronos 00:52, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

2012.10.26

Just created the Template:Infobox User. It's now in its beta stage. GMRE (talk) 19:09, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

2013.02.28

Recently I've been renaming a lot of pictures. Most pictres seem to have totally useless names that are made up of random symbols. The pictures should be searchable. Every picture of a location/vehicle/mission/object should have the correct full name of the item in its name. If there's going to be (or is) multiple pictures of the same thing, then the name should specify the details in brackets at the end of the name, or something like that. But of cource, the name should be as short as possble.

I don't need help with this, I'm just pointing out the problem in a public place. GMRE (talk) 16:37, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Wait is the picture name the same as the picture file name? If so then I better start giving pictures proper file names. Speeddaemon (talk) 01:40, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. That's exactly what this is about. How do you even know what you're uploading, if the file name is like that? GMRE (talk) 16:29, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

I know what I'm uploading because I would have saved the picture recently. So the file name is the picture name right? Speeddaemon (talk) 04:38, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. GMRE (talk) 12:08, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

2013.03.10

An new infobox is now planned. It will be used for Sabotage Destructible Objects and should be created by GMRE next week. (AdminSaddex 23:17, March 10, 2013 (UTC))

Done. Go see Template:Infobox SabotageObject. GMRE (talk) 19:39, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

2013.03.20

We should remove the weapons part from the performance tables on all Just Cause 2 vehicles. That info is in the infobox. That performance table is copied from the official guide (an inferior competitor to this site), so ideally that table shouldn't contain any extra info. This isn't a high priority. Just something to do when editing a vehicle page. GMRE (talk) 18:25, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't work to request one of the bots at this site, such as Gtabot to handle a such task, or is that a too "advanched" task for a bot to do automatically? (AdminSaddex ^{Any questions?} 18:40, March 20, 2013 (UTC))

I've standardized the table code in most articles, but there's still some that have a different code. I guess a bot could do it, but I don't know. I've never contacted a bot owner about anything. GMRE (talk) 18:44, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

2013.03.27

The new achievements were finished and turned on this week. Also, a new category for sorting the settlements marked as villages was created yesterday. (AdminSaddex ^{Any questions?} 23:12, March 27, 2013 (UTC))

2013.04.26

There was an odd glitch yesterday. When trying to edit, all articles got stuck at "loading editor". It happend in both Internet Explorer 8 and Google Chrome. I contacted wiki support. When I tried again several hours later, it was all working again. GMRE (talk) 16:23, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

I also contacted them, and shortly after I contacted them, it worked as normal again :P. (AdminSaddex ^{Any questions?} 21:50, April 30, 2013 (UTC))

2013.04.30

A new navigation box has been created for the Category:Just Cause Weapons this week, Template:JC Weapons. It has now been added to all of the related pages. Furthermore, our first affiliation seems to be in our hands now. The Grand Theft Wiki's executive manager, owner, and former sysop/bureaucrat on this wiki, Gboyers has accepted a partnership. It's maybe a little controversial on their wiki though, as Gboyers agreement lets us bypass one of their affiliation rules. (AdminSaddex ^{Any questions?} 21:50, April 30, 2013 (UTC))

2013.05.11

As of 2013.04.30 we also have a new site maintenance page: Just Cause Wiki:Task list. That new page is a list of things that any new editor can do to help, where as this page is for pretty much admins only. GMRE (talk) 15:10, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

2013.06.01

Links to administrator usernames will now appear in color on talk pages (unles there's a custom signature) and on the recent history list. GMRE (talk) 11:35, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

2013.08.01

Two of our latest templates: Template:Locked and Template:Construction. GMRE (talk) 22:41, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

2013.09.04

Two more new templates: Template:JC1 Missions‎ and Template:JC2 Missions. GMRE (talk) 16:27, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

2013.09.23

The Just Cause Wiki:Article quality levels are now in effect. The templates still need better number icons, but those can be added later. GMRE (talk) 13:10, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

2013.11.09

The content pages are pretty much done, but the community pages (category help; help desk; community portal and any other such) are still the same as they were when the wiki was made. They're totally out of date and providing useless info. They'll be updated during the following weeks. GMRE (talk) 16:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

2013.11.16

The new forums have been enabled for about a week now and it seems to have been a good idea. They've noticeably increased activity. GMRE (talk) 13:01, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

2014.12.05

Bringing back the maintenance log after over a year! Added a template for easy featured articles. Also added forum activity to main page. Kronos ^Talk 22:28, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

2014.12.07

All embedded video players should be updated from "Video:" to "File:". Wikia has updated its coding, resulting in the ones marked as "Video:" becoming broken red links once the page is edited. At least 90% of the videos should be fixed by now, but keep an eye out for the last few. GMRE (talk) 11:56, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

2014.12.15

I just created a new template: Template:This-section-needs-work.
I've also started the complete rewriting of Just Cause Wiki:Templates. That article seems to be a completely pointless default article that probably comes with every new wiki once its founded. It refers to a lot of templates that don't exist on this wiki and lacks nearly all templates that we do have. I've cleaned out some of it before, but it needs a complete rewrite to be useful. GMRE (talk) 20:53, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

2015.01.14

Added infoboxes and information to several DLC weapons.
Replaced remaining weapon pictures with the black market ones ripped from the game.
Replaced copyrighted pictures in the 'trucks' category. Kronos ^Talk 06:12, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

2015.01.18

Replaced copyrighted pictures in the 'motorcycles' category.
Updated poll.
Changed featured articles on portal pages. Kronos ^Talk 05:01, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

2015.01.27

Replaced Chevalier 'car' pictures.
Created a template to use for vehicle stats, needs some tweaking still. Kronos ^Talk 11:14, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

2015.01.29

Thanks to Kronos, the JC2 vehicle statistic tables can now be incorporated into the vehicle infobox. Also, he reported having replaced all JC2 vehicle pictures that had copyright issues. GMRE (talk) 17:42, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

I am almost done replacing the copyrighted images. There are about 10 left.

Added Template:Documentation to standardize and move the documentation of templates to a /doc subpage. Very simple to use.
Going to add the remaining strategy guide stats, soon. Kronos ^Talk 03:59, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

2015.01.31

And it's fuckin' done. All images have been replaced. If anyone finds any more, let me know. Kronos ^Talk 15:29, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

2015.02.01

Organized Main/Portal pages.
Added all strategy guide stats. Kronos ^Talk 17:43, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

2015.02.12

I moved the background up precisely 8 pixels today. I dunno why it needed to be moved by that number precisely but it did. Weird update. On another note, I should add that there is a portal page for Just Cause 3 now. But that was made quite a while ago now. Kronos ^Talk 01:05, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

2015.03.28

I have rewritten the generic and not very useful wiki Portal:Community to something that's at least a little useful now, but it's still going to need some work. It still looks like an article page. GMRE (talk) 10:56, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

2015.03.30

I've disabled blogs and removed their widgets on the main page/portal pages, also updated the community portal to show the change. Kronos ^Talk 23:21, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

2015.04.01 (top navigation)

Using this page to edit the "top navigation" allows us to add one more * to the beginning of each line, which allows there to be a fourth thing in the top line. I used it to add the "community" after JC3. GMRE (talk) 15:17, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

2015.04.22

We've had custom edit summaries in a drop-down list for a few weeks now. The place to edit those is Template:Stdsummaries. GMRE (talk) 16:58, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

2015.05.04

I made and implemented a new infobox: Template:Infobox Nation. GMRE (talk) 19:56, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

2015.05.15 (latest standard tables here)

As of a couple days ago, I've started to implement a new form of table, mainly to match up with the infoboxes and keep consistent looking tables across the site. The new tables are a bit heavily padded so I plan to lower that shortly. The differences are as follows.

Original:

{| style="float:left" border="1"
|'''Column name 1'''
|'''Column name 2'''
|'''Column name 3'''
|-

Replacement:

{| class="jctable" style="margin-bottom: 0.5em;"
!Column name 1
!Column name 2
!Column name 3
|-

Anything after this point on any table is the same so tables are very easy to change over. Kronos ^Talk 04:06, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

2015.05.28

Apparently there was need for an Illustrated guide to editing, so I made one. GMRE (talk) 18:28, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

2015.07.14

Made a template for article and file name change requests: Template:Namechange. More info at Just Cause Wiki:Templates. GMRE (talk) 22:05, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

2015.07.15

The background has been resized to 1080x1920 which is wikia's standard size. Being that it is a larger image than before, the lowest two images have been removed to make up for the file size. I plan to re-add them at a later date. As for now, 1080x1920 should work for any user; mobile, desktop, desktop XL, or otherwise. Kronos ^Talk 23:04, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

2015.08.26

The higher ups at Wikia are forcing all wikias to have identical (inferior and ugly) infoboxes, because according to them, non"standard" infoboxes don't display correctly in "mobile devices". This wiki is one of many where all infoboxes do display correctly, but they're still forcing everyone to replace all infoboxes. This means all infoboxes will have to be completely remade and (probably) manually replaced, unless we can get some bot to do it.

Also, thanks to vacations, we're down to 1 active admin. Not a major problem at this time, but we may need more staff by the time Just Cause 3 comes out (96 days from now). GMRE (talk) 15:55, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

2015.09.03

About infoboxes: Looking into this more, I haven't seen a direct order to do it now and they seem to still be developing additional codes for it. Time will tell what will happen. GMRE (talk) 21:19, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

2015.10.13 ("Fan Studio Opportunity")

Recently we agreed to change the mainpage as a part of a "Fan Studio Opportunity" deal which should result in this site getting some exclusive Just Cause 3 info closer to its release (december 1) and this wiki might even become officially recommended (or something like that) by Square Enix. The main page redesign negotiations can be read at User talk:GMRE/Archive 10#Fan Studio Opportunity. Time will tell what this will lead to. GMRE (talk) 15:28, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

This later lead to a JC3 giveaway event at the wiki. All pages have a template-like advertisement on the top that leads to User_blog:Matt_Hadick/Just_Cause_3_Giveaway. The event lasts about 2 weeks. GMRE (talk) 16:09, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

The game give-away is getting lots of attention. At this time it's listed as having had 393 unique editors during the last 3 days. GMRE (talk) 18:59, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

2015.11.01 (infobox settlement (JC3))

The Template:Infobox Settlement that's currently used on all JC1 and JC2 articles has become overly complicated, so I've just made a separate identical infobox for JC3 settlements: Template:Infobox Settlement (JC3). GMRE (talk) 20:15, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

2015.12.08

Created categories for factions, split for each game. This allows the main page to have separate links to each group of factions on a per game basis and keeps the wiki more organized. If more categories are found like this, similar separation will occur. Also to be noted is that I plan on implementing navbox style sections to the portal pages, to make them more useful and in-depth.

EDIT: I accidentally lost this paragraph before I posted it, so if some similar typing shows up on a different page, that is why. Long day... Kronos ^Talk 23:39, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

2016.03.22

By now there's plenty of Just Cause 3 content. The total number of articles is 1509. Read Thread:24362 to see details of how this wiki has effected game content.

An example of a notable new article is Timeline of the Just Cause universe.

GMRE (talk) 17:27, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

2016.04.23

As of today User:Anonymous230385 is our latest staff member. GMRE (talk) 17:53, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

2016.10.06

For some reason the top navigation is broken (changed to some vastly inferior version with like 80% less links.

I'll post the code for the previous top navigation here, until it gets fixed, if it's possible to fix.

- Portal: Just Cause|Just Cause
  - Just Cause
  - Types of missions in Just Cause|Missions
    - Devil's Drop Zone
    - Breakout
    - Freedom Fighters
    - The San Esperito Connection
    - Test of Loyalty
    - Category:Just Cause Missions|More...
  - Category:Just Cause Vehicles|Vehicles
    - HH-22 Savior
    - Rossi 866 Corral
    - Huerta Mesa
    - Wallys GP
    - Jaeger 5FJ 7
    - Category:Just Cause Vehicles|More...
  - Category:Just Cause Locations|Locations
    - San Esperito
    - Nuevo Estocolmo
    - Isla San Cristobal
    - El Volcan
    - Mendoza International Airport
    - Category:Just Cause Locations|More...
  - Category:Just Cause Weapons|Weapons
    - Holdt R4 Pitbulls
    - Aviv Panthera
    - Barclay Phantom
    - Lance FDL
    - Mako Ocra
    - Category:Just Cause Weapons|More...
  - Category:Characters in Just Cause|Characters
    - Inmaculada Palmiera
    - Jose Durango
    - Esperanza Caramicas
    - Category:Characters in Just Cause|More..
- Portal: Just Cause 2|Just Cause 2
  - Just Cause 2
  - Category:Just Cause 2 missions|Missions
    - Welcome to Panau
    - Casino Bust
    - The White Tiger
    - Mountain Rescue
    - Three Kings
    - Category:Just Cause 2 missions|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 2 Vehicles|Vehicles
    - Mancini Cavallo 1001
    - Hedge Wildchild
    - Pocumtuck Nomad
    - Cassius 192
    - Zhejiang 6903
    - Category:Just Cause 2 Vehicles|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 2 Locations|Locations
    - Panau
    - Kampung Orkid Riak
    - Fasility Gunung Timur
    - Wajah Ramah Fortress
    - Mile High Club
    - Category:Just Cause 2 Locations|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 2 Weapons|Weapons
    - Assault Rifle
    - Pistol
    - Sniper Rifle
    - Revolver
    - Rocket Launcher
    - Category:Just Cause 2 Weapons|More...
  - Category:Characters in Just Cause 2|Characters
    - Ninjas
    - "Boom Boom" Bohulano
    - Shved
    - Razak "The Razor" Razman
    - Category:Characters in Just Cause 2|More...
- Portal: Just Cause 3|Just Cause 3
  - Just Cause 3
  - Category:Just Cause 3 Missions|Missions
    - Welcome Home
    - Friends Like These...
    - Conflicting Interests
    - Challenges
    - Category:Just Cause 3 Missions|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 3 Vehicles|Vehicles
    - Kerner Serpente R12
    - Urga Pocomaxa X4
    - Mugello Delphino GLF
    - Urga Bkolos 2100
    - Category:Just Cause 3 Vehicles|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 3 Locations|Locations
    - Medici
    - Costa Del Porto
    - Vigilator Nord
    - Category:Just Cause 3 Locations|More...
  - Category:Just Cause 3 Weapons|Weapons
    - CS110 Archangel
    - Fire Leech
    - Urga Vulkan
    - Capstone FH155
    - Category:Just Cause 3 Weapons|More...
  - Category:Characters in Just Cause 3|Characters
    - Di Ravello
    - Mario
    - Dimah
    - Annika
    - Category:Characters in Just Cause 3|More...
- Portal:Community|Community
  - Administrators
    - User talk:GMRE
    - User talk:Kronostradamus
    - User talk:Anonymous230385
    - User talk:SaddexProductions
  - Special:Forum|Forum
  - Task list
  - How-to tutorials
    - Manual of Style
    - Illustrated guide to editing
    - Sample page for vehicles
    - Templates

GMRE (talk) 19:02, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

I have also asked for help at the "community central" (aka support) wiki at this page. If there's no response in 24 hours, I'll send a "bug report". Bug reports are responded to by qualified technicians with in a few days. GMRE (talk) 19:33, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

As of the time right now, 20:04 UTC time, the top navigation box is fine

Could be a temporary glitch, although much can change in an hour Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 20:03, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

See here for the full story. They already fixed it and they'll implement a better wikia-wide fix later. GMRE (talk) 20:47, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

2016.12.09

User:Anonymous230385 (an admin) reported today that he'll be away for an unknown and possibly indefinite amount of time. GMRE (talk) 20:42, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

This matter is resolved. GMRE (talk) 11:45, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

2017.01.15 (JCFF)

There's two announcements:

As discussed at this forum thread, we will no longer have to restrict the increasing massive amount of Just Cause fan fiction to forum threads at this wiki. All Just Cause Fan Fiction just got its own separate wiki: http://just-cause-fan-fiction.wikia.com/
Today, this wiki got its 1600th page.

GMRE (talk) 11:45, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

2017.07.21 (about inactive admins)

The nitpick: I've always wondered what we should do about the inactive Bureaucrats. I feel like they pose a slight risk if they login and decide they hate us, with the amount of power they have. Call me crazy, but I'm posting this here to keep it off of GMRE's talk page because of that. After having looked around, there are ways to contact Fandom about getting them removed, with community approval of course. I know this isn't a talk page but I am making an exception for one thing. I mean, there's one that doesn't even have a userpage. I'm just think that prevention is better than repairing after the fact.

Let me know what you think and take a look at the stats. Kronos ^Talk 06:02, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

The same statistics are in the table at the top of this page. I happen to have noticed that the GTA wiki has actually gotten a number of admins demoted for "inactivity". I don't know if it's possible to demote a founder tho. I guess we should get those demoted who have not been active since 2011.

It obviously wouldn't be right to do this if someone just needs to take a 6 month vacation due to reasons. GMRE (talk) 08:46, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

I imagine we should make a post about this on the forum, as we need the community's support for Wikia staff to accept this. Founders can be removed but I highly doubt they would do that. Having only one inactive user with top rights, particularly a founder, would be alot better than the 5+ we have now. Kronos ^Talk 06:35, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

First off, should I reply on this? (I don't know, I'm an admin but have never replied until now)

Second, I have seen the same thing on the PvZ wiki (I joined not too long ago) and there admins are not only demoted for inactivity, but also bad behavior (which apparently is rampant there)

Kronos, what do you mean by "5+"? We have at least 5 active admins right now?

Seems more like four to me Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 14:25, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

*3 active, 2 on "vacation" and a bunch more who should be demoted. As you can see at the table near the top of this page. GMRE (talk) 14:54, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Oh I see

...

I don't know what to do (I've either never seen them or barely seen them) Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 16:39, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Well there's not much to do.

Lucan hasn't been completely active since about maybe a year after I showed up. Very rarely he edits some page a little and (checking his contributions) You know what? He hasn't been here since 2015.
Saddex was very active until at one point the mileage counter in his mind crossed from 999999 to 000000. He then announced his long term vacation and disappeared about a year before JC3 came out. In fact that's why I had to promote you, because Kronos was also not exactly active. He's been back a few times, but nothing that could be seen as "active". You should remember him. You were both very active back then.
I think I can remember Shadowalkers, but he disappeared a long time ago.
Kronos also likes to have long periods of inactivity.

Really the only ones who should be demoted are specifically "Whitehwk", "Frozenjakalope", "Chief frank 001", "C-d-rom" and "Shadowalkers".

@Kronos I guess I'll make a thread for it then. GMRE (talk) 18:02, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Lucan07 as I recall was semi-active around when I joined in 2014 (but yeah I haven't seen him in recent years)

I remember Saddex enough that his old username Norlanning96 (or something like that) was still in use back then (but now I haven't seen him in like forever)

I've never heard of Shadowalkers

Kronos is... Kronos. Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 18:14, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Let's continue this discussion at Thread:37424. GMRE (talk) 18:21, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Okay Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 18:32, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Some of this has been cleaned up now. GMRE (talk) 13:17, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

2018.02.13

Wikia has updated its coding a little with 2 notable minor changes.

Some of our infoboxes, like the article quality levels are now automatically adding an empty row above them. This can be manually removed, but it requires every editor to remove them in source mode during each and every page edit. Well probably have to update our template code for this somehow, if we can figure out how to.
- It is likely that they purposely did this to force everyone to replace all custom infoboxes with their lame generic ones.
The normal big red "edit" button now uses the "classic editor" by default and the "visual editor" is in the drop-down list where the classic used to be.

GMRE (talk) 23:33, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

This update was actually pretty recent because I noticed it probably the day it was implemented (message on GMRE's talk page)

At first I thought it was some coding glitch but then when it started happening to all pages --> led to this Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 01:16, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

It seems that the empty rows problem really was a glitch, because it lasted for about 3 days and is gone now. The articles are still edited in the classic editor by default, but that's no problem. In fact that's good, because I only edit in "source mode" from the "classic editor". GMRE (talk) 19:46, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Yup definitely a glitch

I just edited three pages as a test and the spaces never appeared

...

Weird Anonymous230385 ^{Any questions? Wanna talk?} 19:52, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

2018.07

Work is underway with all the JC4 intel from the several promotional developer videos and a few pre-launch gameplay videos.

Meanwhile User:Anonymous230385 had a random disagreement about matters unrelated to the wiki and seems to have left again. He has disappeared and come back more times than I've bothered to mention in this log. Usually he leaves a mention of it on my user talk page. Anyway, time will tell when/if he'll be back. GMRE (talk) 21:20, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

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 Work is underway with all the JC4 intel from the several promotional developer videos and a few pre-launch gameplay videos.

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